As the Giants replace Dave Gettleman, when will this insane period of turnover end for them – and for the Jets?

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Another off-season, another research.

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In what has become a January rite here, a local NFL team will be looking for a new head coach and / or general manager this offseason.

This time it will be the Giants’ turn, as they will replace general manager Dave Gettleman – and possibly second-year coach Joe Judge, too, whose seat is getting hotter by the day.

But Gettleman is a damn, at least.

Since the Jets replaced GM Mike Tannenbaum with John Idzik before the 2013 season, the Jets and Giants have combined to complete 10 coach or GM searches in nine offseason. Gettleman will do 11 out of 10, from 2013 to 22.

The Jets hired three general managers in this stretch – Idzik in 2013, Mike Maccagnan in 2015 and Joe Douglas in 2019. The Giants hired a general manager – Gettleman in 2018.

On the head coach side, the Jets hired three – Todd Bowles in 2015, Adam Gase in 2019 and Robert Saleh in 2021. The Giants also hired three – Ben McAdoo in 2016, Pat Shurmur in 2018 and Joe Judge in 2020..

The only offseason during this 2013-22 period without a search for a coach or general manager for either team – 2014 and 2017. This will therefore make five consecutive offseason with a search.

(You can see a full rundown of all of that research below.)

None of this is surprising, of course, given how serious these teams are.

The Giants now have five consecutive losing seasons (all with more than 10 losses). In that streak, they are 22-58 (0.275 winning percent). Since winning the Super Bowl after the 2011 season, the Giants are 61-99 (0.381). Since then, they have had two winning seasons in 10 years – 9-7 in 2012 (no playoffs), 11-5 in 2016 (one and finished in the playoffs).

The Jets, meanwhile, have six straight losing seasons – and a 27-69 record in that streak (0.281). Since reaching the AFC Championship game in 2010, they are 63-113 (0.358). They have a winning season in 11 years since – 10-6 in 2015 (no playoffs).

So yes, just one combined playoff appearance (and no playoff wins) in the past 21 seasons combined for the Jets and Giants has unsurprisingly resulted in a lot of turnover.

Could other changes come after the 2022 season?

Well, the Giants’ new GM would obviously be safe, although the judge may be gone (assuming he’s not fired now).

And Jets coach Robert Saleh, entering his sophomore year in 2022, is likely safe as well. But if Jets general manager Joe Douglas doesn’t make his third full offseason on the job, he might be getting canned.

Either way, here’s the full, offseason-by-offseason rundown of recent Jets / Giants research:

2013: John Idzik (General Manager of the Jets)

2014 : No search

2015 : Mike Maccagnan (Jets General Manager), Todd Bowles (Jets Coach)

2016: Ben McAdoo (Giants coach)

2017: No search

2018: Dave Gettleman (Giants general manager), Pat Shurmur (Giants coach)

2019: Joe Douglas (Jets General Manager), Adam Gase (Jets Coach)

2020: Joe Judge (Giants coach)

2021: Robert Saleh (Jets coach)

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Darryl Slater can be reached at [email protected].


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